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[Three Vigies] 3v3 Team Discussion
Sat, 29/12/2007 - 20:13 — Shandril
Before we start going into discussions how we fight, communicate, gear up etc. I would appreciate if all of the team members could express their expectations and basics about how we go about the Arena team.
From my side I am really looking for a kind, friendly environment where we can start exploring completely new area of what the game has to offer, get to know it, understand, and with the time get good at it, but first of all to have fun and enjoy just doing things together.
I would really like to see no pressure be it now at the start or later in few weeks/months on the result/rating of the team, and instead would love to see emphasis put on a joy of doing something together outside of raids.
For example if you find a joy in grinding honor in AV and such to get as much resiliance gear for the Arena fight, than great, it will certainly help our progress, but if you do not, that's also OK, and our slower but still a progres will get us sooner or later some Arena rewards with the resiliance on it.
In terms of members, the team was created today by Marandol, Stellvia and myself, soon I expect to see Scypher and Shadowbeam to join, and hopefully another healer if there will be a one interested in guild. From that moment I would love to see the team as stable as possible, but from my perspective it should be really free environment, where you can come and go as you feel like. In real life my passion outside of WoW is diving, where there is one golden rule I always obey, and it would be very applicable to our Arena team: "Any diver, can resign from a dive at any moment, for any reason" and the attitude of the rest of the team should be "no questions asked, surely he/she had a good reason".
I also would like to stress, that at the beginning the Arena experience will be very frustrating for us. Be prepared for it and just take it easy. I expect it will be very hard for us to win any of the initial 10 games untill our rating drops to lower level where we will face people at the similar skill/gear level. So remember, this Arena team is by no means to be the champions right away, we simply will not be, it is all about doing some things together outside of riding 
We might get pro in Arena at some point, but it will take us long weeks and months to achieve shall we decide to get there And what we need to focus while on the way ther is to have as much fun and joy together as possible
Any other thoughts from the team?
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@ Mon, 31/12/2007 - 01:35
Edited: I will use this slot to post a summary of what we agreed in terms of WHEN to ply:
2008-03-19 update: nothing agreed at this moment, planning 5v5 and 3v3 revitalisation.
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@ Fri, 11/01/2008 - 00:44
Btw a nice addon for arena is Arena Unit Frames. It makes a group list of the other group when someone in your group see them and u can monitor their health/mana + just click on the list to select targets.
Im sure there are more advanced addons but this is nice and simple
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7377/
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@ Fri, 25/01/2008 - 14:05
Compilation of some posts for the record done as part of cleaning the thread:
Most of the time the apponent go for the healer.
And i have 349 resilience on Deamonhead and getting more and more Resilience.
Next thing im gonna get if the Arena shield with 27 resilience.
But the most imba thing about our setup is Heroism with Rappid Fire.
Loopoyu and Phleb do insane damage with both buffs on that we always kill 1 apponent instandly.
And after that its 3 vs 2 and way easy to finnish.
If my connection problems are fixed i think we wil be able to get the rating up to 1700.
On this page you find macro's/talent tree's for all classes and nice movies to learn from.
If you wanna get a hi rating you indeed need like 400 resilience and 10K+ health.
Also i advise you guys to download the addon "Proximo" !
This addon puts your enemy in like a party frame so you can select them easy.
And also this addon shows you what spec your enemy have.
Like a Shaman if he's Resto, Enhancement or Elemental.
Or a Mage if he's Fire, Frost or Arcane
ext...
Best thing to start with is killing a healer or keeping him interupted.
I dont know what setup you guys play ad the moment.
But if it is:
Shandril
Shadowbeam
Stellvia
When you fight against 2 dps 1 healer:
Than the best ting to start with is Stellvia go's in first and fear there group appart.
When they are feared Stellvia starts to mana burn the healer.
Shadowbeam try's to stunlock 1 of there dps keep him stunned and let him slowndown with Cryple posion.
Shandril keeps they ather dps sheeped and put his Water Elemental on the same target as Shadowbeam.
And Shandril only have to resheep and resheep and in the time te dps is sheeped he can shoot some frost bolts ad Shadowbeams target.
Also try to Counterspel the heal that stellvia is mana burning.
After the healer is oom and there is 1 dps left its 3 against 2 and it wil be a easy fight.
When you up against 3 DPS:
Stellvia always try and keep mana burning the caster/hunters/DPS-paladins.
If those people get oom they wont do much damage.
Shadowbeam best ting for him to take a Cloth of a Leather wearing person and keep him Stunlocked again.
For Shandril same thing as above keep 1 dps sheeped and the Water Elemental on Shadowbeams DPS.
And if you guys are up against 2 healers and 1 DPS:
Stellvia keeps fearing and mana burning 1 healer.
Shadowbeam go's on the dps and give him healing reduce posioning.
And Shandril also go's on that DPS same with his Water Elemental so you guys out damage the second healer for healing that dps.
I hope this info helps you guys out a bit and goodluck in the Arena.
Cheers,
Deamonhead
A nice function within Proximo is:
./Proximo misc announce party
It will say: < Name > (Paladin) and < Name > (Low Heath).
Quite handy function if your team mates havnt got Proximo themselves.
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@ Mon, 17/03/2008 - 20:38
Our Three Vigies Arena teams seems inactive since like 6-8 weeks or so. Any healer want to join Shadowbeam and me for some 3v3 arena? Or any current active 2v2 or 5v5 team needs Mage by any chance?
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@ Mon, 17/03/2008 - 20:48
Hum.. was some time since i did 3v3, could be fun to try that again.
If you want a player from the worst pvp heal class in your team, i could give it a go
Ompinator
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What he thinks, he becomes.
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 01:14
Yeah! Let's see what we can do!
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@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 08:58
I need an arena team, how about making a nice 5v5?
Used to be really into arenas 'back in the day', now it's impossible to get a team lol
Pyroxian Firelord - The True Living Flame
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 10:15
i'm up for a 5v5 on my rogue
Tinùviél "Mmmmm shadowtrap... whats that ?"
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 13:11
I'd be up fo a 5v5 team as well
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 16:08
Z on either mage or rogue would go aswell methinks
Praise the Emperor.
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 18:02
you got a rogue Zord ?
Tinùviél "Mmmmm shadowtrap... whats that ?"
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 18:24
yeah, she's so good that nobody has seen her yet tho
Praise the Emperor.
@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 18:45
rofl here literally - especially after seeing Zord's rogue online massive time over last months
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@ Tue, 18/03/2008 - 18:49
I think it is Shadowbeam who is owner of the 5v5 I am in, thereofre all interested people I suggest should talk to SB directly to check what classes are needed most for the the class balance reasons.
Since it is 5v5, quite a large team, we could do 1-3 games after each raid possibly (just to get it started and see how we doing, while not putting too much time/effort into it initially)? How would that work for all?
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@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 01:01
@5v5 team: So far I see 4 people interested:
Pyrox preferably on Shaman, but healing Druid possible as well
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Shynaski on your Rogue
Crocket on disc Priest
Zordon on Mage or Rogue
me on my Mage (ahh, ofc... I have no alts
Anybody from current team I am in with SB interested as well? - I think we only played like once which was an experiment, so not sure if ppl still want to be in the team and play?
It would be also good to organise a permanent day/time for some games, as from my experience it is the only way to make arena team work: one defined timeslot in a week when we play 1-2 hours. My idea was to choose one or two raiding weeks, and possibly stay 30-60 min after raid and play some arena when many ppl are online after raid. How does that sound? For me the best day is Thursday after raid, than possibly Tuesday as well. Another slot I can make is Sunday 11:00-12:00 am.
How does that sound?
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@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 03:24
Any raid day is good for me.
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@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 08:46
Would like to join as my shaman, but if we lack a healer I can give it a go with my druid but he's a bit under geared (PvP wise)
Pyroxian Firelord - The True Living Flame
@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 09:08
Im available... lock ofc
@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 09:11
Cleaned the thread from old posts.
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@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 11:00
Available on Hunter if its after raids and not some Saturday thing.
@ Wed, 19/03/2008 - 14:16
Since I see quite a lot of interest in 5v5, I would like to ask the people who are currently in Shadowbeam/Shandril 5v5 team since few months, from the time of the one-day experiment to declare if you still want to be in the team and become active members? Shall there be no response I will assume it is OK for you to be replaced by those who are keen to play, and therefore I will be reforming the team in couple of days. Probably the same goes for 3v3 team, which was inactive for long time too.
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@ Thu, 20/03/2008 - 10:05
The team is inactive mostly because a "lets see whos online sometimes in the weekend" thing dont seem to really work.
I'm still in if we find a date in the week for some games. If its a fixed date on the weekeend I'm out.
@ Sat, 22/03/2008 - 09:35
Based on the experience of Three Vidies, which was a team composed originally of 6 people, it is a massive hussle to make sure that all ppl have appropriate % of games played, therefore in my view now small teams 2v2 and 3v3 should be composed of exactly the number of people as team requires, or best case "+1" to cope for some unexpected unavailability of some members. The teams should also have a permanent time slot in a week to play 10 games or more, this is a fundamental must for arena success.
On the other hand for 5v5 it seems that to get all 5 ppl online at the same time every week might be bit tricky, therefore it is probably good to have some more people in 5v5 to have flexibility.
For the above reasons I would like to reform 3v3 and 5v5 teams along the lines of the above.
3v3 team is now reformed with Ompi, Deadeye (Warrior), Shandril which is reasonable setup and the agreed time to play is Thursdays after raid. If Marandol you want to stay in the team for this time slot on your Hunter, than I am happy to rotate my place with you, as I do not think it makes sense to rotate any other member with Hunter.
In terms of 5v5 the following people expressed interest so far, and the team will be formed accordingly:
Pyrox on Shaman (preferred) or Druid (healer)
Shynaski on Rogue
Crocket on disc Priest
Zordon on Mage or Rogue
Shamdril on Mage
Marandol on Hunter
Morganath on Warlock
Shadowbeam on Rogue
Anybody can advice what the best setup would be for the people who have a choice of characters (Shaman/Druid and Mage/Rogue)? I think more healers and CC can never hurt, so I would opt for Druid and Mage, but need an advice.
Any comments to this post and setup of 3v3 and 5v5 welcommed, I shall try to accomodate for it as much as possible.
Ahh, and for all the memebers, please do not forget to install Arena Unit Frames addon http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7377/ which Shadowbeam menthioned atop of this thread, really a must for our teams
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@ Sat, 22/03/2008 - 17:43
Addon wise I can recomend Proximo over Arena Unit Frames since it shows the other teams talent builds
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