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Super gz all 
Kill picture from deadeyes cute ass perspective when last boss is killed to get the achivement 
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@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:21
Gz to us, Vigilantes rocks
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:23
Gz us!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:32
that brown dot is me ^^
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:50
Gz on surviving the omega stance!....
Oh wait?
As you can clearly see, I am the Imbafail

@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:11
Gratz Vigis!
For those who want to know: the members of the group in the picture were: Sunel (Shadowbeam), Myrah, Grunak (Novak), Drathual and Mantrid (Deadeye)
"Was hoping Dead would go DPS" by Morganath

@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:54
Congratulations all, brilliant team effort from everyone
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:55
Shows why we are vigilantes, the spirit of vigilantes is what made this possible, people running instances till early hours of the morning we salute you, all the quest hand ins too, <3 you all
Anyone got resurrection for sale?
“The person who tries to live alone will not succeed as a human being. His heart withers if it does not answer another heart. His mind shrinks away if he hears only the echoes of his own thoughts and finds no other inspiration.
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 21:59
But, the most credits go to the team that brought us to level 23 within 1,5 hours
Tits, Shii, GG, Scy and Chillit!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:01
Chillit Bang, and the Exp is gone!
to the voice of Barry Scott
Anyone got resurrection for sale?
“The person who tries to live alone will not succeed as a human being. His heart withers if it does not answer another heart. His mind shrinks away if he hears only the echoes of his own thoughts and finds no other inspiration.
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:05
Tits, Shii, GG, Scy and Chillit!
hehe yeah, at like 5 in the morning.. Thats hardcore dungeon running!
We rocked!
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:11
Wasnt 5 in the morning
And grats on the ding everyone, good work, was a fun night!
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:17
was when we ended
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:17
Congrats all! Excellent performance from everyone!
And let QE cry
The goal of war is not to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his.
<3 Shii
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:29
Nicely done ladies!
Shynaski: "I'm very disapointed with paladins as well, mainly because of what DKs can do."

@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:34
was when we ended
Noes took as a bit over 1 hour!
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:36
was when we ended
Noes took as a bit over 1 hour!
Oh yeah... D'oh... But it WAS late
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 22:46
Haha nice effort ppl
we are the best
(especially all the gnomes!!
)
Life goes up, life goes down - only death is certain so it's about getting the best out of life when it's there!
- All that work takes up too much of your spare time!!
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 23:18
Nicey done guys, just disappointed to have missed the final push.
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 23:19
You were here in spirit Steve!
Anyone got resurrection for sale?
“The person who tries to live alone will not succeed as a human being. His heart withers if it does not answer another heart. His mind shrinks away if he hears only the echoes of his own thoughts and finds no other inspiration.
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 23:24
I still like we showed off in two cities
Stormwind and Orgrimmar
That taught the horde a thing or two about our mindset! 
Life goes up, life goes down - only death is certain so it's about getting the best out of life when it's there!
- All that work takes up too much of your spare time!!
@ Tue, 05/04/2011 - 23:31
one of the most fun 2 days in Vigi for sure

chainrunning instances tonight was awesome, we barely stopped running to actually kill a boss
last % "1%, who is near a boss.....100%!, but still 7k to go
got so many "gz"and "showoff"whispers tonight
and then ofc the lion run into Orgrimmar, epic!
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 00:00
chainrunning instances tonight was awesome, we barely stopped running to actually kill a boss
last % "1%, who is near a boss.....100%!, but still 7k to go
got so many "gz"and "showoff"whispers tonight
and then ofc the lion run into Orgrimmar, epic!
that lion run was for sure epic XD damm i think we made some of em annoyed xD
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 00:10
The 'need to test mass resurrection' video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDxXSEZMLD8
Sadly I was killed almost at the start of the Org run, so the video was just me making a corpse run. I hope someone else got some footage of that epic run
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 00:30
quality garck!
Anyone got resurrection for sale?
“The person who tries to live alone will not succeed as a human being. His heart withers if it does not answer another heart. His mind shrinks away if he hears only the echoes of his own thoughts and finds no other inspiration.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 00:42
lol
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 16:04
A couple of screenshots from the Orgrimmar run.
The assembly

The charge


Final destination: the auction house

"Was hoping Dead would go DPS" by Morganath

@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 01:01
great evening everyone! really good fun
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 01:45
hurray ^^
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 06:23
Gz to all was really happy yesterday seeing everyone in the guild giving it all to reach lvl 25.
Btw Tranq of Essence of Mercy but up a GZ post on the wow realm forms, needless to say it is all filled with QE tears. Now lets be kind to the kids and offer them some tissues.
One last thing if you happen to find any dummies in SW please send them beck to Thaloc.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 07:12
Btw Tranq of Essence of Mercy but up a GZ post on the wow realm forms, needless to say it is all filled with QE tears. Now lets be kind to the kids and offer them some tissues.
One last thing if you happen to find any dummies in SW please send them beck to Thaloc.
Just read through the forum post. They are actually calling us undeserving of the realm first and said that at least the raiding ones go to the deserving guild(them)
"When a child has an imaginary friend, we call it cute and play along. When an adult has an imaginary friend, we call it schizophrenia and treat him with drugs. When many adults share an imaginary friend, we call it religion and get yelled at when we point out the similarities between points two and three."
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 07:14
A great guild effort. Do not forget all those who made sure that each and single day we achieved the daily cap and kept up the progress, one missed cap and we wouldn;t be here:) A guild achievemnt indeed:)
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
[...] If you are trying to AE tank and a bad dps is attacking the wrong target and dies, we call that justice.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 07:20
Yep, when I left for Italy we were atleast a level and a half in front of the next guild, all thanks to us not missing a single days cap and getting that essential days lead on all but 1 guild.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 08:17
We have got some congrats from other QE members
Tokens and Rekcinad. I don't have my Authenticator with me though so I can't say thanks 
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 08:21
A big grats from me and everyone at Aquamarine
Needless to say that it's only the retards from QE, i.e. Thaloc and Michieltjuuuuuuuuuh that find the need to come up with comments about non-deserving and blabla.
Just goes to show what a bunch of pricks most of them are.
Live your life so that you when the time comes can look back at it without regret
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 08:54
An old friend from Atlas shrugged now in Essence of mercy whispered me last night saying to pass on there congrats to us aswell
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 08:57
its not QE , it's actually QQ
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:00
Too bad I dont have my authenticator with me I am tempted to write:
' Spill your tears here....(__)P.... I feed on them.'
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:31
Its fun to see the horde apritiated our little Org invasion
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:36
' Spill your tears here....(__)P.... I feed on them.'
I wouldn't if I were you Kaz.... we got the achi, people QQ'd, we taunted, they QQ'd again. We don't need to keep miliking it.. anything further is just going to impact the guild in a bad way.
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:46
it is funny as hell watching the haters from QE flail about on the forums like fish out of water
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:47
I would agree with nyxxi, i've made a post on that topic already asking the haters to please stop etc, its one achievement that they missed out on, and they still feel the need to moan endlessly about it. Childish if you ask me, and we're above that.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 11:32
Man the love in here is just amazing! ^^
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 11:46
I'm glad you created an account just to post that, Thaloc.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 11:48
How can i not really
- its good fun read when you are at work ^^ just wanted to say thanks!
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 11:54
Now please stop quoting from our forums to the WoW official forms, and ths social scrub Kazuo is a men with a family that when he started playing WOW and you were still playing Pac Man pushed Red Cross together with others to kill Ragnaros and Nefarian.
P.S. you quoted Karei who now is an Aquamarine member
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:01
Well iam happy for you that you have a family
- And for the record my friend you got my past all wrong there. played all the way from US beta - and properly killed rag and nef befor you did
Anyhow iam not here to start a flame war here - i wanted to say Gz on the achi and cheers for the nice words
And Kazuo cheers for the reply man atleast i can put a name on you now ^^
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:04
Anyhow iam not here to start a flame war here
No you're here to copy posts and start a flame war on the official forum instead it seems.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:04
We all have a lot of respect for you guys over at QE and what you acheive on the raiding front. We don't compete on to the same level as you guys on that front.
Vigi is a more social raiding guild and this achievement suits us, as we have a lot of raiding and non raiding members and they all joined together to achieve it.
Let us have our little moment to shine, we don't get to have them very often.
We wish you luck getting your final hardmode kill.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:06
Thaloc, thanks for the gz and we appreciate the 'not here to start a flame war' - just a small favour for me to ask of you, could you minimize your signature, not because of the file size but because of the space it occupies
Thanks in advance!
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:06
You are most welcome my friend
you probably did kill them before I even set foot in MC, but my achievement was not killing them it was working with others the likes of Stellvia, Michael, Coldheart, Papa, Crypta to build a guild that could at least progess in a raid.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:14
Dirath - officel forum is something else man. I dindt qoute any names i was a point to mich to check it out.
Sentinalz - Indeed man "us" in QE we raid for progress and tbh with you i dont care about the achi you got really i dont, the only reason why i start posting on the officel forum was the whispers i had yesterday. And just so you dont get me wrong like most of the players above. I have said Gz on getting it - even tho blizzard are you fuckheads that should sort there shit befor releasing it
but thats no your fault its blizz! so yeah Gz on it.
Kazuo - indeed
i worked on my old guild Solid and it fun
Nyxxi - i would but way to used to phpbb forums
all the HTML code well ill try
Anyhow Thaloc over and out.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:23
@Thaloc
The following kind of describes you doesn't it?
Your repetition, a permanent state
But you're masking your jealousy
As if it were hate
What you try to be
Is conflicting with reality
So above it all, how does it feel?
Watching them fall while you conceal
The reasons you've gone so far
Raided with you for quite a while back in SSC etc, you used to be a decent person - what happened? Nowadays you're just full off piss & vinegar, a shame really.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:32
<3 sweet poam man really
What happened i joined EG back in the days - it changes ppl! naa on a serious note, Mondang ask anyone that really knows me i havent changed abit tbh - Just cos 98% Doomhammer thinks iam a fucking moron dosent make it the truth
And did we raid in AS ? if so ask Lisa if i have changed
- but yeah my ego is like the great wall of china its never ending.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:33
The internet allows anyone to act in whatever way they like (to a certain extent) without worrying about consequences, behind (picking a random number here) 70% of all trolls and seemingly stuck up jerks on the internet is usually just a normal guy/girl who likes to use that anonymity to enjoy themselves.
If there's anything I've learned from the internet its never take anything seriously, chances are that any insult you see on the net or in game can be chalked up as someone making a joke and the punchline being that you take it personally
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:37
Lets stick on topic guys.
This post is about Vigi making server first and has nothing to do with other guilds.
I am looking forward to seeing the pictures once Deadeye has managed to fix the links.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:39
Not a poam fuzzy T, lyrics actually:)
Then I reckon your public image has changed, doubt it's something to be proud of but I'll leave that up to you to decide.
Might've been Synergy where we started raiding, not 100% sure..might've been AS as well, really can't remember as it's years ago.
Reckon the whole point I'm trying to make is that it's incredibly easy to create an image, living with it or better yet...getting rid of it is hard - think about it. Also, in the end even a great wall will start to crumble under its own weight, just a matter of time.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:55
Just FYI most of the hordies in Org was nice about the whole "raid".
I was on my Tauren at the time as those of you that were there remember.
And I got some "Grats" and "Way to go" from random guilds when I explained
why we were "raiding" the Auction House.
Again, I am glad I could contribute in some small way and really glad
that I was on my first char and love when the Achie kicked in.... Massive feeling
of Joy.
all the best
Tiochfaidh
aka Stormborn.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 14:37
Vigilantes !
It was great fun to work together as a whole to achieve this. The whole hour that followed was just awesome laughs and fooling around
Riding the lions into Oggrimar, whilst being scouted by horde on flyers, following our line straight into the AH and aoe-spamming it while popping our banners was a truely epic once-in-a-WoW-time-experiance ^^
Thanks all !
little proud D.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 14:52
I died before I got there:( Took one for the team!
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:03
Noam sacrifice is a marker for high standard groups !
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:28
Gratz to us, Great job all
A man is but the product of his thoughts.
What he thinks, he becomes.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:29
wohooo! thats awesome! mega congratz
/hugzzzz
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:38
Guild exp cap problems or not, we did deserve it as we did put a lot of time in it. The last 3 days, staying up late farming dungeons over and over and actually having 3 raid teams clearing BoT/TotFW was epic and a nice boost
Also last night, how many where there?, 5 teams of 5man dungeons running? An excellent team performance 
Am not sure what happened to which guild on the release date, but we did have about 70 members online at release date boosting our exp massively, despite the resets we got (yes, all guilds got the resets at the same time, as every time it happened /2 was filled with people wondering if it happened elsewhere).
The goal of war is not to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his.
<3 Shii
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:41
We had at least two resets, I remember, and if QE or whoever have gotten more, though luck for them..
Im considering writing Blizzard to get an official statement, because Im actually not enjoying us getting a server first if we indeed didnt deserve it... I although strongly doubt that Blizzard would make a mistake like that...
I also think that we have a lot more casuals than QE, boosting our general XP a whole lot more than them farming hc bosses
(i dont know if they like us have about 40 people online every night leveling doing quests ect., other than the people raiding, its just not my impression
)
No matter what, gz to us for being server first, the performance was outstanding and the team work was great
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 16:10
I already spoke to a GM, and all he said was if people think there is a bug, they should make a ticket and it WILL be fixed...
Blizzard WILL announce if there have or is any problemes with the XP cap and resets ect. and if the achievement werent "meant to be ours". But so far they havent recieved any ticket from QE or any other guild about any bugs with the XP system.
So Thaloc; Go make a ticket and take a shower!
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 16:59
Used the amazing amount of 2 minutes to google this!
Take a look here --> http://www.wowpedia.org/Guild_advancement
Quick recap : First possible date to get 23 (removal of the cap) was on the 4/4-2011.
Gasp! OMG! we got level 23 on that date, so all the other guilds have missed there daily caps at some point. To back the date even more up, look at all the guilds making lvl 25 on the fourth and fifth of April, I very much doubt that Blizzard made an uniform mistake like that!
Can we just enjoy this and forget all the childish complaints now.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 17:05
Gratz
Live Long Die well

@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 17:07
The great thing about the achievement is it truly is a guild achievement. Everyone who logged in since Cata made a contribution, even if they just did one small quest . I am sure it was a close call reaching or not reaching the cap on some days. Every bit helped.
Now go and get that lion those who haven't already!
ps: don't ever doubt the legitimacy of our achievement people. Other guilds didn't fall 2 or more days behind "because of a slipped reset half a day into cata" or anything the likes. (Besides I know for a fact that we had at the very least 3 of those resets, I personally witnessed them.)
Don't bother with those expressing their jealousy in all their weird ways, don't gloat over them either though. But, by all means, enjoy the moment, enjoy the reward for all the efforts made, it is well deserved.
"Was hoping Dead would go DPS" by Morganath

@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 17:24
Take a look here --> http://www.wowpedia.org/Guild_advancement
Quick recap : First possible date to get 23 (removal of the cap) was on the 4/4-2011.
Gasp! OMG! we got level 23 on that date, so all the other guilds have missed there daily caps at some point. To back the date even more up, look at all the guilds making lvl 25 on the fourth and fifth of April, I very much doubt that Blizzard made an uniform mistake like that!
Can we just enjoy this and forget all the childish complaints now.
I couldn't help myself and posted that on the Doomhammer forums
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 17:28
Come on guys, don't spoil this. We deserved it and a slap on the back for every member of the guild, raiders, officers and casuals alike.
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 17:59
Do we have a big picture or shall I set one up?
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 18:03
We haven't decided on a location yet nor a time
so yeah you can set one up if you want.
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Wed, 06/04/2011 - 19:48
Gratz to us
Now on to the other achievements, if we are true to our character, we will catch up with others on progress as usual. ;P
::42::
@ Thu, 07/04/2011 - 05:59
Hey.
This will be my last comment on the matter; I made a post yesterday concerning the childish rants of some people towards Vigilantes, and I'm happy to note they stopped afterwards.
What Garck posted _is_ correct, and you'll find that I posted something similar on the forum 12 hours before Garck posted it. April the 4th is the first legitimate day that anyone who didn't suffer the second rep reset that we did, could achieve the Level 25. It's fundamentally that simple. Vigilantes got the Realm First achievement legitimately, and put alot of hard work in to the achievement.
Now, what leaves a sour taste in the members of QE, is that due to the famous 'second reset' that was for different guilds, we never got a chance to compete on the field; I made the calculations on December 10th, and equated the first day we could ding would be April 6th; three days after the expansion came out.
Consider that people aren't flaming Vigilantes as a whole, just the system; a system that didn't allow a guild that was eagerly awaiting some form of competing achievement, to compete. Frustration speaks out, and what you saw was the first page of the forum. Again, it's nothing against Vigilantes, just frustration against Blizzard as a whole.
Concerning the pieces wrote here; about tickets - I can assure you, that I became the bane of GM's for most of January, as did most of QE, with the amount of tickets we had opened. We were generally fucked about by GM's - Dpjones's ticket was the best, a GM looking 'firmly' in to the matter, closing the ticket, and never being heard from again. They had confirmed that we never missed the cap on a day; but our experience is shared with a high proportion of guilds.
Blizzard, simply put, could not reset individual guild's XP, or boost a guild's XP to what it should be. They say it's a limitation in the system; but we know it's possible, hence the evident pouring of frustration.
It's not also this; we must have spent over 150k on the Realm First! Working as a Team achievement, legitimately achieved this on the 16th of December; only to find three months later, AIAO was given the realm first (and ours still exists) for some bizarre reason by a GM. It's just frustration at Cataclysm.
Now I've had a chance to basically copy my thoughts over for the forum, I hope this can end the emo drama, and allow Vigilantes to focus on their achievement, something they enjoyed. It would have been nice to be able to compete, but it's Cataclysm; the worst expansion for Blizzard so far (Pre-nerf Maloriak, V+T anyone?)
Grats, and see you around on the lions. Plenty of room in the sandbox
-James
@ Thu, 07/04/2011 - 07:01
Hey James, thanks for congratulating us on the achievement, and for your good and mature attitude toward stopping a pointless debate. You guys keep up the awsome work and get Sinestra down soon:)
Regards,
Feyd
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
[...] If you are trying to AE tank and a bad dps is attacking the wrong target and dies, we call that justice.
@ Thu, 07/04/2011 - 13:10
congratz VIGILANTES !! u rock! proud of u ! /huuuuuug
@ Thu, 07/04/2011 - 14:01
Just came back from sea this is a nice welcome home gift!
Gratz ALL!
"Grant me the strength to accept the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference." - Antonidas -
@ Thu, 07/04/2011 - 14:16
hellooooo pipoo
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 04:53
HA! In the picture from Orgrim AH, in the very front you can see the top
of my Thunder Bluff banner.... so one more banner for us even though
noone knew it at the time.
all the best
Stormborn
-back at work for a spell... so again a 38 hr shift.
but will try to get online for a spell tonight.
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 12:22
JM: Not to keep the drama going but a "Gz, but sorry noone could compete with you" is just not cool
We had 3 guilds right up our ass before hitting the lvl 23, and when we hit lvl 23, we had people chainrunning instances, none of the others did.. We have been same lvl as you guys, and one aheard some days, so saying you could only get it 3 days after us, is imo weird, how can we have been on the same lvl most of the time then? I still vote you didnt reach the cap, and the victory of another guild taste sour in your mouth...
When Blizz gives me an official post about this issue, Im willing to agree with you but til then
But thanks for the "GZ" anyway!
Titansruler <3<3<3 & Nekster <3
“I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.” - Jackie Robinson
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 14:38
@Shii, Bizzard will never give proof that they messed up in any way possible. It's Blizzard. We currently have two guilds that have "Realm First! Working as a Team", one achieved 3 months later. Blizzard has yet, in over 30 tickets, to confirm that 'both guilds have the achivement'.
In regards to the competing thing; every raid boss gives an insane level of guild exp. All three raiding teams were moving to save at least 7 bosses; 7 on heroic for T1, as well as the RBG's. I don't doubt it would be a pushover, but the raiding experience >>> guild experience through 5mans. The entire point of me coming to your forum (1v100) was to reason things out, not to debate theory of who would win. Personally, it would have loved to have seen the mass member approach of vigi vs the RBG/PvE raid approach of us - something that was robbed.
And, we could only get it 2 days after you. I don't know who was feeding you information, but it appears they were definitely wrong. With a reset on Friday at 3AM (Hotfixes did this), this meant that you were accumulating rep at Wednesday and Thursday, we were not. The first day you could ding was Monday, the first day we could was Wednesday.
Ultimately, you will never recieve any clarification from Blizzard on the issue. Privacy act means that they cannot openly discuss other guild matters (Imagine how much fun this has caused when we are repeatedly trying to find out why a GM found it necessary to issue AIAO with the Working as a Team achievement, when the dates show we got it first, by a long shot). So, it's up to you if you wish to take what I say, or wipe your arse with it. However, as has been viewed from the official forum (and over virtually every realm), do the latter at your peril, as alot of people are frustrated with the beta version of Cataclysm that was released, and I really can't be bothered to stem a flame war anymore if there isn't a level of understanding from both sides. The frustration is from the amount of time we have spent ticketing these useless GM's over the last 4 months, as have most guilds in our position.
James
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 14:24
I haven't seen any evidence anywhere that you guys didn't miss your daily target on one day. Stop complaining and move on.
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 14:29
I think this has moved on from complaining about blizzard and is more an offense/defence of opinions rather than what the initial argument was about. Though I will say that we also had 3 raiding teams clearing content because as you say raid bosses give significantly more xp than 5 mans
Its water under the bridge or over the dam, whichever. Lets leave it please.
We are all puppets, I'm just the puppet who can see the strings..
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted." - John Lennon
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 15:46
My last say on the matter.
In my edit of my above post, I pointed out that I chose to come to this forum because you are all attempting to prove the moral high ground on some nature. I am merely here to explain what happened on our side; and why people are so frustrated.I have came and put forward the truth as to what happened to QE; take it, or move on. I have also silenced the flames on the official forums. If you want to go ahead and accuse us of faking it or whatever - fine. Whatever makes you sleep at night. I am glad that there are a core of Vigilantes members who can appreciate why members of my guild are frustrated (and coincidentally took it out on you), but replies such as "Stop complaining and move on" are fuel to the fire. The guild has already moved on; I am just attempting to mend the fence, as it were, because it's my guild, and therefore, I have no desire to see unncessary flame.
That being said, the final thought; grats to Vigi for the achi, the hell with Blizzard, and carry on with attitudes of goading and general QE bashing, and it will. I don't care whichever. I lost my motivation for Realm Firsts when they became without a title (bye T9 :<)
@ Fri, 08/04/2011 - 15:48
Locking post.
Really disappointed that this has gone this way.
This achievement is vigi's and all about vigi and its members and no one else.