[Healers]Sunwell and healing

Stellvia's picture

We downed Illidan: an awesome achievement. But this means Sunwell is no longer a place far away where guilds like EG alone raid. Once we get geared up a bit Vigilantes will also enter the Sunwell and as such we need to prepare for it. Healing in Sunwell is far more difficult than anything we've done up to now.

Up to now you've all been stacking stamina mana regen and heal mostly and this was indeed the way to go for BT and MH. For Sunwell this will not do. Sunwell isn't about how big your heals are but about pure and simple raw HPS (healing per second). You need lightning fast healing there without cancelling spells, with precasting (NO reactive healing anymore) and they need to land in time. You can feel where this is heading to => Spellhaste.

There's is little difference between a 5700 and a 6000 heal landing on the MT but there is a huge difference between a 5700 casted in 2.3 sec and a 6000 in 2.5 seconds. The first case will result in longer living tanks, the second in larger heal gaps in which Sunwell bunnies decimate the tanks.

The trick to raise HPS is spellhaste: 1 point of spellhaste will make your HPS go up twice as fast as 1 point of healing will do, and as an added bonus it lowers your global cooldown (GCD) and the casting time of spells

I'll use myself as example:
If I empty 1 trinket slot my Gheal has 2569 HPS and Fheal has 1960 HPS
If I now add 84 Healing my Gheal has 2615 and Fheal has 1997 HPS
If I add 40 spellhaste trinket it becomes : Gheal 2630 HPS and Fheal 2007 HPS and as added bonus the Gheal is now also cast 0.05 seconds faster and Fheal is 0.03 seconds faster.
=> As you can see spellhaste not only has a very big effect on your HPS it also lowers casttimes and GCD. So once you have enough raw ehaling power you should switch to stacking haste instead of stacking heal even further.

Ompi and me have been experimenting alot with spellhaste and we're extremely pleased with the effects. It's time everyone else starts to add it to their gear. Without spellhaste we are gonna make Sunwell alot harder. Talk to your classleaders or me to see how we can adapt your gear to add in spellhaste. It is no longer a 'nice-to-have' but a 'must-have' if we are to venture beyond Illidan. As such i'd also ask no longer to ignore every item with spellhaste on it. HPS and spellhaste is the way to go now if we want to succeed in Sunwell.

Speaking for priests only now: once you reach about 2200 healing UNbuffed stacking further healing becomes mostly useless and you should switch to spellhaste instead. As a rule of thumb you should consider ALL yellow gem slots to be spellhaste and no longer 11 heal 5 int. Blue/red are best 11 heal 5 spi. 22 heal gems aren't advised as stacking haste will affects mana regen in a negative way. Don't completely nerf all your stats to for haste but aim for 100 spellhaste to start with, that'll reduce gheal casttime to 2.35 which is a very significant change allready.

If you want to see how different gemming changes your gear I recomment the following site: http://www.chardev.org/?c : At the armory input tab you can load your char from the armory. Then use the Character Sheet tab to alter gear gems enchants and such around. On the spelltab you'll be able to see how this affects your spells.

Ompi's picture

@ Thu, 07/08/2008 - 15:10

Signed and totaly agree, we need to get haste stacking going for EVERY healer for when we enter SP, as stell so verry nice presents and explain in this post. Sunwell is built for spell haste, without it it's going to be alot harder to get by.

stellvia wrote:
Speaking for priests only now: once you reach about 2200 healing UNbuffed stacking further healing becomes mostly useless and you should switch to spellhaste instead. As a rule of thumb you should consider ALL yellow gem slots to be spellhaste and no longer 11 heal 5 int. Blue/red are best 11 heal 5 spi. 22 heal gems aren't advised as stacking haste will affects mana regen in a negative way. Don't completely nerf all your stats to for haste but aim for 100 spellhaste to start with.

This applys for shamans aswell.
With the small diff that: You add 11h 2mp5 insted of 11h 5spi in blue sockets.
22healing and 10 haste is the 2 most powerfull gems for you to add allways try to fit those in first, you can eaven skipp socket bonuses from time to time ( seeing is a verry week one, 1mp5, 5h.. ect ) but be verry carefull. You still need a solid base of Mp5 to last thro the fights.

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Ompi's picture

@ Thu, 07/08/2008 - 15:40

Question for the "Core officers" regarding epic gems.
As you se, alot of healers are going to need to switch their current yellow socket gems to a lionseye spell haste. Is it possible for them to request that from the gbank or do they need to gather those themself? seeing since there will be alot of those gems needed in the comming days/weeks.

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What he thinks, he becomes.

Stellvia's picture

@ Thu, 07/08/2008 - 15:58

yes there will be some switches needed, but let's not overdo it else we'll have ppl with no mana regen anymore. We should take case by case and see where we can add haste without nerfing another ability too much (especially mana regen).

PS Look at this guy Smiling http://www.chardev.org/?template=63294 41% spellhaste (646 hasterating Smiling ) and still over 2k healing lol. Gheal casttime is 1.77 seconds and has 3100 HPS lolz

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Ompi's picture

@ Thu, 07/08/2008 - 16:02

Stellvia wrote:
yes there will be some switches needed, but let's not overdo it else we'll have ppl with no mana regen anymore. We should take case by case and see where we can add haste without nerfing another ability too much (especially mana regen).

Ofc,
Though switching the yellow sockets is the best and first switch to be done acording to me. Since you do not have any gems providing mp5 in yellow sockets.

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What he thinks, he becomes.

Erodin Muppet's picture

@ Thu, 07/08/2008 - 18:40

Ompi wrote:
Question for the "Core officers" regarding epic gems.
As you se, alot of healers are going to need to switch their current yellow socket gems to a lionseye spell haste. Is it possible for them to request that from the gbank or do they need to gather those themself? seeing since there will be alot of those gems needed in the comming days/weeks.

If you approve them then I shall send em out Smiling

Ompi's picture

@ Fri, 15/08/2008 - 23:13

Bump!

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Ompi's picture

@ Mon, 25/08/2008 - 13:21

Bumb! again Smiling

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What he thinks, he becomes.